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		<title>John Creighton at 06:35, 5 September 2009</title>
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l6&quot; &gt;Line 6:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since the martian atmosphere is thin then these numbers should be even smaller for mars. If the temperature difference is small (less then a degree) then the heat transfer is small. I wonder how much insulation it would take so that the outside wall temperature is near that of the martian atmosphere. In such cases perhaps most of the heat losses will be radiative. However, radiative heat losses could somewhat be balanced by the back radiation in the atmosphere. I wonder if the atmosphere is thick enough to have significant back radiation. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;&amp;#160;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f9f9f9; color: #333333; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #e6e6e6; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Since the martian atmosphere is thin then these numbers should be even smaller for mars. If the temperature difference is small (less then a degree) then the heat transfer is small. I wonder how much insulation it would take so that the outside wall temperature is near that of the martian atmosphere. In such cases perhaps most of the heat losses will be radiative. However, radiative heat losses could somewhat be balanced by the back radiation in the atmosphere. I wonder if the atmosphere is thick enough to have significant back radiation. &amp;#160;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>John Creighton: New page: Wikipedia gives some typical numbers for the heat transfer coefficients for air:  Air - h = 10 to 100 W/(m2K) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient  Since the martian atmo...</title>
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				<updated>2009-09-05T06:34:48Z</updated>
		
		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Wikipedia gives some typical numbers for the heat transfer coefficients for air:  Air - h = 10 to 100 W/(m2K) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient  Since the martian atmo...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Wikipedia gives some typical numbers for the heat transfer coefficients for air:&lt;br /&gt;
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Air - h = 10 to 100 W/(m2K)&lt;br /&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_transfer_coefficient&lt;br /&gt;
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Since the martian atmosphere is thin then these numbers should be even smaller for mars. If the temperature difference is small (less then a degree) then the heat transfer is small. I wonder how much insulation it would take so that the outside wall temperature is near that of the martian atmosphere. In such cases perhaps most of the heat losses will be radiative. However, radiative heat losses could somewhat be balanced by the back radiation in the atmosphere. I wonder if the atmosphere is thick enough to have significant back radiation. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:John Creighton|John Creighton]] 06:34, 5 September 2009 (UTC)John Creighton&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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